What we have all done is just exchange one type of mind control, one form of slavery, for another.
That one realization may just help you in your present course of life, because all life is servitude in both mind and body.
Always has been, always will be.
That's all.
NightOwl
Well?
NightOwl
i am looking for any examples, preferably with independent news sources of any witnesses that have ever been:.
mugged.
raped.
A sister had an RV that she didn't feel comfortable about, so she gave it to myself (I was an MS at the time), and one of the elders.
We went to the house and this guy wouldn't come out because he said that he had asked HER to return and not us. He was talking to us through his front window, but he refused to come out. He was yapping about what the usual born again and again and again rants and raves about.
So the guys not going to come out and he just keeps repeating the same thing so we turn around and as we get to the side walk he says he should come out and kick our asses.
So the elder starts laughing and says something like 'we're right here if you want to come out'. So the guy starts cussing us out, but won't come out, and we leave laughing.
The thing is, the elder I was with had been a boxing coach in the military, and I had taken martial arts from the brother of a well known martial artist.
Good thing he stayed inside.
NightOwl
this is from a blog, "news from me" that i read fairly regularly.
mark evanier is, among other things, a comic book writer (co-writer for "groo-the wanderer), a television writer, a great raconteur, and was a close person friend of jack kirby, one of the world's greatest comic book artists.he got an email from a jw trying to explain why they come to his door.evanier's answer is well thought out, and should explain to even the densest j-dub why people really don't like being bothered.
maybe his correspondent will take it to heart, but probably not.
Look, this guy just needs to get over it.
Hey buddy, just get yourself put on the "no call" list with the local congregation.
NightOwl
having a believing spouse, but no longer having any desire to go to the meetings, or service, this is what i've come to call this space i'm in, and i'm sure a few others are in this same space.. nightowl .
berry,
I guess it's welcome to HELL.
Seriously, this is the ONLY place where one can come to present their situation, because where else can one be understood?
It is not easy, because it is not usually a "just get up and walk away" situation.
NightOwl
having a believing spouse, but no longer having any desire to go to the meetings, or service, this is what i've come to call this space i'm in, and i'm sure a few others are in this same space.. nightowl .
So then, the next issue is whether to leave things as they are, me being inactive for many years, or to get disfellowshipped, which would certainly make everything cut and dried.
Certainly a difficult point to get to.
NightOwl
having a believing spouse, but no longer having any desire to go to the meetings, or service, this is what i've come to call this space i'm in, and i'm sure a few others are in this same space.. nightowl .
Having a believing spouse, but no longer having any desire to go to the meetings, or service, this is what I've come to call this space I'm in, and I'm sure a few others are in this same space.
NightOwl
if you believe "when it's your time to go, it's your time to go" then cause of death does not matter.
plane crash, school shooting, accident, war, or anything else.. if you have this mind set, then any event resulting in a human death is just fulfilling a pre-determined destiny for that human.. you also cannot pick and choose as to which event, or rather, death, is in the "when it's your time to go, it's your time to go" scheme of things or not.. nightowl.
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If you believe "when it's your time to go, it's your time to go" then cause of death does not matter. Plane crash, school shooting, accident, war, or anything else.
If you have this mind set, then any event resulting in a human death is just fulfilling a pre-determined destiny for that human.
You also cannot pick and choose as to which event, or rather, death, is in the "when it's your time to go, it's your time to go" scheme of things or not.
NightOwl
a manual for creating atheists offers the first-ever guide not for talking people into faith--but for talking them out of it.
peter boghossian draws on the tools he has developed and used for more than twenty years as a philosopher and educator to teach how to engage the faithful in conversations that will help them value reason and rationality, cast doubt on their religious beliefs, mistrust their faith, abandon superstition and irrationality, and ultimately embrace reason.
- amazon.... "boghossian has provided an indispensible chart book for all of us who must navigate the rising sea of magical thinking that is inundating america today.
You might get lucky and live for 90 or 100 years, but what the hell does one person know in 100 years? Knowledge from the beginning of time, encompassing all things seen and unseen?
Like I said............................
NightOwl
a manual for creating atheists offers the first-ever guide not for talking people into faith--but for talking them out of it.
peter boghossian draws on the tools he has developed and used for more than twenty years as a philosopher and educator to teach how to engage the faithful in conversations that will help them value reason and rationality, cast doubt on their religious beliefs, mistrust their faith, abandon superstition and irrationality, and ultimately embrace reason.
- amazon.... "boghossian has provided an indispensible chart book for all of us who must navigate the rising sea of magical thinking that is inundating america today.
Why do you care that people believe in God?
It's actually a strange question on a forum for people who have had their families, friendships and careers destroyed by people who order their lives around superstitions.
It is not a strange question.
You just don't want to honestly answer it.
Look, you just want to be right, and you want to control those who you say are controlled.
You are not all knowing, so you don't really know whether God exists or not.
You might get lucky and live for 90 or 100 years, but what the hell does one person know in 100 years? Knowledge from the beginning of time, encompassing all things seen and unseen?
You, sir, and all who think like you, are to be pitied for your arrogance and your foolishness.
NightOwl
